PROGRAMMING : Desktop Java

Here's a wiki about developing decent java desktop apps. Is this even possible? jIDEA is supposed to be excellent, and Eclipse is OK (a bit slow).
I think the best thing for desktop would be for the JITs to be able to cache their 'compiled' class files in, for example, 'bin' files so that load times etc are considerably improved. But that's just me :)
Talking of desktops, the boys at Ars Technica have an indepth look at KDE